Cellular Intelligence is Activated by Redox Signaling Molecules | 007
The Redox PodcastOctober 20, 2026
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Cellular Intelligence is Activated by Redox Signaling Molecules | 007

What if some of the physical limitations we associate with aging deserve a closer look? The body's ability to communicate, adapt, and maintain balance at the cellular level is central to understanding long-term wellness, yet this remarkable internal intelligence is often overlooked.

In this personal conversation, Redox Podcast hosts Russell Mariani and Mark Porteous share the experiences that introduced them to redox signaling and changed their perspectives on cellular health. Mark reflects on the physical challenges that affected everyday activities and family experiences, while Russell draws on decades as a health educator to explain why cellular communication matters for vitality and resilience. Their stories open a broader discussion about the science of redox signaling, the body's natural processes, and the importance of personal connection in wellness education. Together, they explore how greater awareness of cellular function can inspire a more informed, proactive approach to healthy aging and supporting others.

Discover Inside:

  1. Discover why cellular intelligence may challenge common assumptions about aging and the body's capacity to adapt.
  2. Hear how Mark Porteous's experience with physical limitations reshaped his understanding of long-term wellness.
  3. Explore why Russell Mariani's unexpected experiences with everyday energy and physical function deepened his interest in redox signaling.
  4. Understand what redox signaling molecules reveal about communication between cells and the body's natural processes.
  5. Find out why Russell and Mark believe personal stories, education, and human connection are essential to sharing emerging wellness concepts.

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Russell Mariani

Hi, everybody. Welcome to today's Redox Podcast with your host, Russell Mariani. That's me. And Mark Porteous is over there.

Mark Porteous

Good to see you.

Russell Mariani

And today we're going to be sharing our ASEA Redox Stories. The purpose of the Redox podcast is to come up with some interesting answers to three basic questions. And the first question is, what are Redox signaling molecules? Second question is, why are they so important? And the third question is, how does this breakthrough, this Redox breakthrough, create opportunities for wellness entrepreneurs all around the world and frankly, any kind of entrepreneur? So again, today we're going to share our ASEA Redox stories. And that begins with the answer to this question. Where were you, Mark, when ASEA first crossed your path?

Mark Porteous

Well, thank you for that, Russell. It's been fun leading this podcast with you and hearing from some of the leaders in the ASEA community. For me, it was actually we were introduced. I was introduced first to your son Brian, through a dear and trusted friend, Marion Head. And when Marian makes an introduction, I know it's special. And when I met Brian, there was lots of different connection points. And one of them was my own wellness journey, which has unfolded over the years, then, since then, that was in December, or actually, I think fall of 20, 20, 21 might have been October, November, that we first started talking. First I started talking to Brian and basically that's where the story began, was me telling Brian, among other things that we were doing with business and opportunities there. I mentioned that I was going into have surgery to have a hip replacement. And I could see the look on his face. And then he said, oh, well, before anything happens, make sure you talk to my father. Now, I had already had the surgery on the books and gone through all of the process and everything else. And remember that afterwards, the surgeon who had taken the X rays, showing me where they were going to be replacing all the other stuff, was saying, how's it going? The other one? And I was feeling the same type of discomfort on the other side now that I had felt five or six years prior to where I finally broke down. And absolutely, it was so bad, where I could barely walk. I remember the point where I decided I needed to go see a doctor was when I was at my children's 11th birthday party at Universal Studios and it was a Harry Potter birthday. That's when children are invited to Hogwarts, the magical school inside of the Harry Potter world. And so it was really fun to go spend the day with them. But if anybody's been to Universal Studios, you know there's an amount. An incredible amount of walking. And by the end of the day, I was literally hiding my pain and my. My anguish of. Of not being able to keep up with everybody else. I didn't want to let everybody down, and. And at the same time, I didn't want them to see how much discomfort I was in. So I had to hide that and not let anybody know until after the birthday was over. And it came up in discussion with Renee, and that's when we went. Saw a doctor and got all of the plans made. And then again, you know, just days after the surgery, he was already saying, okay, well, let's make plans for the next one. And again, that was five years ago. And the journey between now and then has had a lot to do with what we're gonna talk about today.

Russell Mariani

Yeah. And I think I first met you right after that, you know, like in December, a month or two after you had had the hip replacement surgery.

Mark Porteous

I think we originally met before, but we started working together after.

Russell Mariani

Oh, okay. So. Okay. And then. So your. Your redox story obviously took place. As a consequence, we started focusing on that other hip.

Mark Porteous

Yeah. Because again, I was in the same place that I had been five years prior and feeling like, oh, yeah, I'm going to be on the same path. And you were saying, you don't have to be on the same path, and started, you know, hearing other stories of other people who were experiencing some of the same kind of challenges and saw. Saw what they had gone through and thought it was worth trying at the very least before having to go through another surgery. And I've been on the ASEA journey ever since. Now, again, at the time, I didn't know the science behind it. I didn't understand how it worked. Just like a car, you know, when I go to get a car fixed, explain it to me. Just as long as the car runs, that's great. And if it's not running, tell me what I got to do to fix it.

Russell Mariani

Yeah.

Mark Porteous

All right.

Russell Mariani

I know that you, you know, your doctor had taken X rays, showed you the X rays, and then soon after, maybe it was in the new year 2022, that you actually started taking the Acer Redox supplement. And again, I don't remember, but was it six months later or nine months later or a year later, you had another X ray, a set of X rays taken, or how did that go? Or maybe you were experiencing discomfort. I think you said you were in the other hip, and then a month or two or three down the road of your ASEA Redox journey, that discomfort went away. But you tell what happened there.

Mark Porteous

Well, the doctor was basically just saying, yep, you're able to mask it for now, and that as long as you can, that that's great, but that there's really the only solution is eventually going to be surgery. And it's just up to you of when that's going to happen.

Russell Mariani

And here we are today, how many years down the road?

Mark Porteous

It's five years now down the road.

Russell Mariani

Right. And that surgery has not been remotely necessary.

Mark Porteous

Correct. Yeah. And again, since then, we've also again, got to have all listen to all these amazing experts that you've known for over a decade explain how it works and why it works. And that has helped a lot. And of course, also getting to see people that I know and love get to benefit from it as well.

Russell Mariani

Yeah. So in a nutshell, what's happening here is we know that the body has an ability to heal itself. You know, you cut your finger and you put a band aid on it, and a couple weeks later, it doesn't even look like you can find the cut. So it's a tiny example, but every cell of our body has an ability to regenerate itself, heal itself, repair itself. And by extrapolation, the cells that make up internal organs, like your kidney or your liver or your heart. If somebody has a heart problem, it's because the heart cells aren't functioning properly. And so there's this idea that it's not just an idea, it's a scientific fact that all cells contain the intelligence and the resources to repair themselves. So the question is, how do you activate that cellular intelligence? And this is the area of redox signaling. So back in 1998, scientists won the Nobel Prize when they discovered redox signaling molecules for the very first time and began to understand what they were capable of doing. And basically, what they're capable of doing is activating the resources, activating the cellular intelligence that then empowers this cell to go ahead and fix and repair or heal whatever needs to be fixed, repaired, or healed. So it's a game changer for a lot of people. And the company started in 2009, so it took almost 10 years for scientists to figure out how they could replicate the redox signaling molecules that are made in every cell of our body in the mitochondria. How could they manufacture them and put them into a supplement form, stabilize them so that we could take them into our body? So that's the nature of the breakthrough. And so we have been this product has been available since 2009. And we've been. I first learned about it in 2011. And so that'll be my little segue to my story. At the time, 2011, I wasn't. I was already 30 something years into my career as a health educator and digestive wellness expert. I worked with people one on one, help them to improve their health, help them restore their health. So I wasn't looking for anything in particular. And I would have told you at the time that I was perfectly healthy. I didn't have any major complaints. I had all kinds of little minor complaints, but those were just. I assumed that that was just a natural aging process. And, you know, that's just the way it was. So I was 56 years old back in 2011. I'm 71 today. A friend of mine who had been. Who was a practitioner had been suffering from a condition caused by a bug bite, caused by a tick bite. And he had been suffering for a very long time. And I had seen him in January of that year, January 2011, and he was not doing very well at all. So I would check in with him, you know, once a month. And it was in the middle of June, and I hadn't called him yet in June. And I got a call on my cell phone. I could see it was him, my friend Art. So I answered the phone, I said, hey, Art, how you doing? Expecting to hear this sad voice that I had been hearing for years. And suddenly he sounded completely normal, completely like himself. There was energy in his voice, There was enthusiasm in voice. And so he started talking to me, and I was like, whoa, wait a minute. All right, what happened? You sound great. He said, I am great. I feel great. I have no more symptoms. I have a. I haven't been this healthy in 10 years. So of course I said, well, what happened? What did you discover? Because I know he had been. He literally traveled around the world looking for solutions and paying a lot of money for solutions for his condition, and nothing had worked, nothing that he had tried, nothing that he had invested in.

Mark Porteous

And you had already been in health and wellness for some time. So he knew that he could talk to you about this and you would be able to understand.

Russell Mariani

Yes. Well, I'm sure he was calling me for two reasons. One, to let me know that he was better, and two, that I would most likely be very interested in learning about this, which I definitely was. So that's what got my attention. I ended up talking to Dr. Rob Ward, Dr. Gary Samuelson. Dr. Gary Samuelson was the atomic Medical physicist. He was the scientist who stabilized the molecules for the very first time, making it possible for us to have this amazing Redox supplement. So I made my first purchase. I didn't have any expectations. Again, I'm thinking I'm perfectly healthy already, but. But I'll try it. And, you know, I'm sure. Well, I wasn't sure of anything. I was sure that my friend had been helped. But I was thinking, you know, I'll be able to share it with my clients, and if it's really good, you know, I'll share it with friends and family, et cetera. So the first month, I didn't notice anything, and I was drinking at the time, we only had one product, the ASEA Redox supplement. Looks like water, tastes like water, but inside that water, it's kind of a saline solution, are trillions of bioactive redox signaling molecules. And these signaling molecules activate all of the activities inside of the cell. So the cell is. You could say that if person is tired, the mitochondria aren't producing enough energy. And so when you start taking in ASEA Redox, the signaling molecules send a signal to the mitochondria to start producing more energy. It's really that simple. So. But in the second month of my ASEA journey, I noticed that two things. My wife, Megan and I would ride bicycles every afternoon. And at the end of our ride, there was a hill. And when we came to the bottom of the hill, we would both get off our bicycles and walk our bikes up the hill. And so on this particular day, we're coming to that hill and I'm thinking, well, I should get off my bike as usual. But suddenly I thought, well, no, I'm feeling fine. So I kept pedaling and I went all the way up this hill effortlessly. And so that was literally the first time I thought, whoa, that's different. That's interesting. So I was definitely getting more benefit exercise, you know, cardiovascular, more oxygen to my cells. And then a couple weeks later, discomfort that I had in my left hip. And I probably had a similar. Not as bad as yours had become, but probably a similar condition. And again, I just thought, well, it's just one of those things, I'm already doing everything I know how to do. And it was difficult getting in and out of the car. And then all of a sudden, that discomfort was gone, completely gone. And I remember putting my knuckle from my fist into my left hip, trying to find where the pain went, where the heck did it go? And it was completely gone. So that Got my attention. Now there are many, many things that have happened to me over the last 15 years. But I just want to share two or three other things because these next two things, these next three things were actually very, very significant for me and they had to do with longstanding conditions. And one of them was the result of an accident. I had fallen from a ladder 30ft and landed on the ladder. Probably saved my life, but I ended up breaking my left arm very badly. I had to have surgery. I was in physical therapy for a whole year. And at the end of a year of physical therapy, this was back in 1996, 7. I was told that I would. I had regained as much strength, flexibility as I was going to. I had maxed out my healing. In other words, they were telling me, the orthopedic surgeon and the physical therapist, and what that translated to is my hand was frozen in this position and I had discomfort in my shoulder and my elbow and my wrist. I couldn't really bend my wrist and I couldn't make a fist. And I had done many, many things over the years to try to improve that situation, but nothing I had done improved it. So one night, about four or five months after starting my Asiya journey, I was putting the dishes away after dinner, which meant with my right hand only, and all of a sudden I realized I was doing this with both hands and I was like, whoa, wait a minute. And I started being able to move my hand and my wrist and the discomfort that I had had for 15 years was gone. Not a little bit gone, you know, not like 20%, 50%, even 80%. It was a hundred percent gone. So that really got my attention. And as you can imagine, it totally changed the quality of my life because for 15 years I couldn't use my left arm for very much at all. So suddenly I got that back. And that was pretty amazing. Amazing to me that something that had been told to me by many medical experts was permanent damage had been completely regenerated and didn't happen overnight. But you know, after 15 years, four or five months certainly felt like overnight. Oh, so the two other things, and then I'll, I'll turn, I'll turn it back to you. The second most important thing that happened was, didn't happen for about two years. And I had another condition. Again, these are long standing conditions that I first developed when I was 25 years old. My father had this condition, my grandfather had this condition. So of course we were told it's genetic, there's nothing you can do about it. It has a name. But basically, the symptoms are your hands and feet are cold all the time, even on the hottest day of July. And so I always had in the trunk of my car a bag with these little hand warmers that skiers use in the wintertime.

Mark Porteous

Charcoal.

Russell Mariani

So of course, I. I needed them in the winter time in my gloves and in my shoes, but I would. I needed them even in the summertime. And so. So again, as a practitioner, I knew lots of people and, you know, had tried so many different things, and I did not expect redox signaling molecules to impact that condition. And again, it wasn't overnight. But in the second winter, I got into February before I realized. And I think Megan reminded me, she said, you know, I don't. I haven't seen you using any of those hand warmers. And I said, oh, my gosh, you're right. And that particular day, it was like five degrees above zero. So I went outside with just a regular pair of gloves on and no hand warmers. And I walked out for about 10 or 15 minutes, took the gloves off, and my hands were still warm. Wow. So again, that was. I learned to live with it as many people do. People learn to live with all kinds of chronic, debilitating conditions. So it's been pretty amazing. Now it's been 15 years where I haven't had that condition at all, or 13 years. The third thing was, again, this was probably three or four years into my redox journey. I was someone who wore glasses all day long. I started wearing glasses in the fourth grade, like many children, because I couldn't see the blackboard. I couldn't make out the writing the teacher was putting on the blackboard. And so I was one of those people who. I'd wake up in the morning, put my glasses on, and then go through the whole day with my glasses on. And then when I would go to bed, I would take them off. I wore them for sports. I wore them for all kinds of things. And again, never thought. I thought my vision would get worse as I got older. And then again, I think it was wintertime, I started getting headaches, and I never get headaches. And one night I was driving home from some shopping, and the headache was so bad, I had to pull off to the side of the road in front of a big snow bank. And I took my glasses off, and I'm just rubbing my eyes and rubbing my temple. And before I put my glasses back on, I look out the windshield, and I could see a sign about 50 yards away, and I could read the writing on the sign. And I put my glasses on and it was blurry. I took my glasses off and I could read it perfectly. And I thought, oh, my God, is that possible? And then within a month, within probably a couple weeks, I had a doctor appointment, optometrist or ophthalmologist to check my eyes. And the doctor said, oh, my gosh, yes, your prescription is way too strong. Let's make it much lighter. And so we did that. But then I started getting headaches. But the new prescription. Anyway, long story short, after about six months, I stopped wearing glasses, and I haven't worn glasses since. And that's an amazing thing, to go from wearing glasses all the time to not at all and being able to see perfectly, even at night. So, again, what's going on here is the redox signaling molecules are improving the communication between cells, but they're also signaling. They're activating the full potential inside the body, the full potential for healing, the full potential for repair, the full potential for rewiring, the full potential for detox, the full potential. All the heat regulation, vision, decreasing inflammation. So many problems are driven by, by inflammation. And redox signaling molecules reduce inflammation by helping the body produce more glutathione and many, many other things. We don't want to get lost in the weeds of the science, but the basic idea underneath everyone's improvement is that the redox signaling molecules have activated the, what we're now calling cellular intelligence, the resources inside of our body, inside of our cells, so that our cells can restore function, function closer to normal, or in many cases, go all the way back to normal. And when cells in your hip bones are functioning normally, there's no discomfort, there's no inflammation, there's no degeneration. And if there was, then those signaling molecules can activate the processes responsible for the restoration of weak bones, the restoration. And you can fill in the blank. Weak kidney cells, weak heart cells, weak liver cells. So that's the nature of the breakthrough, and that's why we're doing the podcast, so we can tell everyone about it.

Mark Porteous

You said before that we don't want to get lost in the weeds, but the weeds of the science, you said. But for those who are interested in the science, I, I'm fascinated by the conversations we had with both Dr. Lee Osler, who's written books on this, and Dr. Kaufman as well. And those, those episodes are below. We also have other links where people can find out more. But we, we. You mentioned at the beginning they were kind of two opportunities. One is the understanding how these amazing molecules can help our own bodies to do what they do, to find homeostasis, to self regenerate and to heal. But there's also a business aspect to it. And when you and I met, the first thing you told me was not about redox signaling molecules. Your whole thing was about nutrition and about health. And you have these seven roots of health. And water is one of them. We've talked about the water and how water and all of them work with the cell signaling. So that's one of the seven routes that you talk about. But through the whole process of putting all of these different pieces together, I have started. I dubbed you as my self care sensei and I appreciate the health and wellness aspect of it. But then you also brought in the business opportunity for people, especially if they are wellness professionals or if they work in holistic healing or any of those pieces. But really anybody has this opportunity. Do you want to say something about that?

Russell Mariani

Yes, yes, yes I do. And thank you for bringing that up. So imagine, imagine being the people, the founders of this company, before they created the company, they had a technology that they knew created an opportunity for people to improve their health. And how, how are we going to bring that to the marketplace? And so what they, they, they, they thought of many things. They interviewed many marketing experts. And what was decided was because of the nature of the technology, this was something that was going to be easier person to person. It needed to have a story, it needed to person, needed to tell a simple story and invite people to learn about it and then to get some follower. You know, it's, it's in one sense it's as easy as drinking a certain amount every day. In the beginning, I only drank 4 ounces a day. So there is, there is something that we talk about the redox potential of someone's body in the same way that you can become deficient in vitamins, you can become deficient in minerals, and you take supplements to address and resolve those deficiencies. This same thing happens in the area of redox signaling. So they chose a method of marketing that would involve people helping people, not just to introduce them, but to follow up with them to make sure they were using it correctly so that they could get the results that were possible. So soon, very soon into the process, we all realized that it wasn't a matter of if it was going to work for this person A or person B or person C. We found out it actually works for everyone. And the science, the studies that we've done proves that it's only A question of when and when depends on how much your body needs, how much you need to take every day for a certain period of time before again, Redox potential is restored, Redox homeostasis is restored. And at that point, all kinds of amazing things can become visible to you. It's working the very first 2 ounces or 1 ounce that you consume. But whether or not you're going to feel or see results, you know, like in an X ray or some other kind of test, that can take a little, a little time, not a lot of time. So again, because of the personal involvement, they realized that there was a business opportunity, there was a way to compensate people like you and I to do the marketing, to do the inviting, to do the educating, rather than doing it through television ads or radio ads or whatever. And so, you know, the final price, the final retail price of most products involves as much as 50, 60% goes to advertising, goes to marketing, goes to endorsements from famous people. So this company, ASEA Redox, decided that they would take all that money and give it to people like you and I for doing the job of the marketing, doing the job of telling people the story, inviting them to consider it, and following up with them to make sure they got results. And so, as you know from interviewing two of the interviews we did, one with Trish Schwenkler, one with Alan Noble, these are two of the most successful entrepreneurs in the ASEA community. Both of them were introduced around 2009, 2010, and over the course of their 15 years in ASEA, they have both earned over, wait for it, $10 million in commissions. Because it's not just a direct compensation, I tell you, and I earn a small percentage of the products that you purchase, but the people that you introduce and the people that they introduce, so there's a multi level compensation structure for sharing this and it can be very, very profitable and very rewarding. So that's part of why we're doing.

Mark Porteous

This as well, real quick, because again, like you said, there's lots of different ways that they could do it without advertising everything else. And even before that, to have something as miraculous as this, um, one again, I don't want to go down the rabbit hole if you can go check out some of the other episodes. But one, why doesn't anybody else do it? Cause it's just salt water. You know, it's just water and salt. But they were able to do this. They, they got this stabilized so that it was actual Redox signaling molecules. And then you would think that all these Medical companies would then want it and that they would then control it. And of course, once medical companies get it, you can have like diabetes where a 30 cent treatment now becomes a $300 treatment.

Russell Mariani

So two things, of course, you know this and I, I know you. So it's not salt water. The, the technology, they start with salt water, literally pure purified H2O and pharmaceutical grade salt, so literally pure sodium, pure chloride, pure hydrogen, pure oxygen. And these four elements, these four atoms are broken down into their subatomic particles and they are reconfigured in a way that they become redox signaling molecules. Each redox signaling molecule is only two or three or four atoms inside. So that's as far as we'll go with the second. So, so it's. And then they figured out how to stabilize these very reactive molecules. So that's really the miracle, if you will. And it's a patented process. They're whatever 7, 8, 9 patents over the process involved in creating the redox molecules from pristine salt and pristine water. Why no one else has figured it out is interesting. I don't have a good answer to that. I'm sure there are lots of companies trying to produce redox signaling molecules, but after 15 years in the marketplace, no one has. And so that's interesting. So right now, ASEA Redox is the world's first and only biotech company to have created and stabilized redox signaling molecules in supplement form. So even after 15 years, it's still a ground floor opportunity because most of the world has still not heard about it. You know, probably less than 1% of the whole population of the world knows about Redox signaling molecules. So the opportunity is enormous and we look forward to this next 5, 10, 15 years.

Mark Porteous

So for somebody who might be interested in learning more, either for themselves, to be able to learn more about taking the supplement and how it might help them, or want to learn more about the business opportunity. What's the next step?

Russell Mariani

So the next step would be go down to the page and get the contact information for either Mark or myself and click on the link to our calendar and sign up for a free 30 minute session and talk to us. We would love to share information, have you watch a short video and then have a conversation, get your questions answered and hopefully get you started on your own ASEA Redox journey as well.

Mark Porteous

Well, I'm grateful to be on the journey. Thank you for bringing me along and it's been nice to team up with you and get to hear again some of the scientists, the doctors that are explaining how this works as well as some of the top entrepreneurs in the ASEA community, and hearing how it's all based on service, it's all based on giving and generosity. And again, it's just been so beautiful to see how the other people inside of the community are showing up for each other and communities and really working together. So I'm grateful to you for being a part of it for so long and now me being part of the family.

Russell Mariani

Yes. Thank you, Mark. It's been remarkable. And today we just focused on our Redox stories and how it's affected us physically. We touched a little bit about the business opportunity, but it's true what you say, that there's a tremendous community of caring people, generous people, teaching each other not only how to about the science, how to support other people and getting great results, but how to support each other in the business opportunity. You know, I guess it's perfectly fine. You know, we started the podcast a year ago, maybe even two years ago, I think we started talking about, you know, the conversation. And back then, of course, AI existed, but not to the point it exists today. In fact, just within the last month or two, AI has become this most important urgent topic. And some people are even referring to it as an existential threat. But that's kind of the big elephant in the closet. But many, many, many people will be affected in their job, in their workplace, with AI taking over and making certain types of work or certain types of jobs irrelevant. And I attended a training just this past Saturday with our friend Alan Noble, and one of the things that he pointed out, and I believe it's true, is that another benefit of this business opportunity is that it requires person to person relationship communicating, making a phone call, sending a text, setting up a time to actually meet with somebody, either in person or on Zoom. But it's a human touch that will never be replaced in this particular business. So that is also something to look at more and to talk about more as we move down the road. A lot of people are either being displaced in their job or are fearing that that might happen. And so, of course, we've all heard that expression many times, have a Plan B in place before you need Plan B to take effect. So it's another reason to think about another income stream, another way of generated income by doing something that's completely benevolent, doing something that's completely compassionate, completely in the area of healing and making a difference in people's lives.

Mark Porteous

Russell, thank you so much. And again, we've got the links down below. So if anyone wants to reach out and get some of that personal human connection, we would love to offer it. If you have questions or comments, you can post those as well or just reach out to us directly.

Russell Mariani

Thanks, Mark. Thanks everybody for tuning in. And this will bring to a close this episode of the Redox podcast. Thanks so much, Mark. It's a great session today and thanks everybody. See you soon.

Mark Porteous

See you soon. Thank you.