What happens when you've spent years caring for everyone else, meeting expectations, and doing all the right things, yet somewhere along the way you've lost touch with yourself?
For many women, the quiet stories they tell themselves become so familiar they stop questioning whether they're even true. In this heartfelt conversation, Cherie Ashana welcomes self-leadership strategist and award-winning speaker Ly Smith to explore how self-talk shapes our confidence, our choices, and the way we experience our lives. Ly shares the deeply personal moment when, surrounded by everything she thought should make her happy, she realized something was missing. That awakening led her on a journey of rediscovering the woman beneath the labels, expectations, and roles she'd carried for years.
Together, Cherie and Ly reflect on the patterns of perfectionism, people pleasing, and self-doubt that can quietly keep women disconnected from their own needs and desires. Through Ly's Reactor to Creator framework, her CANDY Method, and simple practices for becoming more aware of your inner dialogue, they explore what it means to see yourself differently and begin trusting your own voice again. This is a gentle reminder that your next chapter doesn't require you to become someone else. Perhaps it begins with remembering who you've always been.
What You’re Invited to Discover
- The unexpected awakening that revealed how easily we can lose ourselves beneath familiar roles and expectations.
- Why perfectionism, overthinking, and people pleasing can keep us caught in reactive patterns.
- A simple mirror practice that may reveal more about your relationship with yourself than you expect.
- How small shifts in self-talk can create space for greater confidence, clarity, and self-trust.
- Why acknowledging your progress may be just as important as taking the next step.
Free Gift from Ly: 5-Minute Self-Talk Reset https://rewriteyourselftalk.com
About Ly
Ly Smith is a Self-Leadership Strategist, award-winning keynote speaker, and seven-time international best-selling author. She’s a Certified NLP Master Practitioner and the founder of UpCycle Coaching, where she works with women who look confident on the outside while quietly wrestling with imposter syndrome, perfectionism, procrastination, people-pleasing, and decision hesitation.
She’s the creator of the C.A.N.D.Y. Method™️, a practical framework for rewriting your self-talk so you can move from overthinking to action. She also leads the G3 Collective, a community for women ready to lead themselves first, and she serves on the faculty of the C-Suite Network Thought Leader Council.
Her name is pronounced like the “ly” in “differently,” which feels right, because she’s all about helping women choose to do life differently.
Website: https://g3mastermind.com
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Get your Copy of the 7 Day SacredSHE Reset ebook at https://awakenedshe.com/
About the Host:
Cherie Ashana is the author of Sacred SHE Reset, founder of AwakenedSHE, and host of the SacredSHE Reset Podcast. Drawing on her own journey through early menopause, burnout, healing and reinvention, she supports women in midlife to reconnect with their bodies, reclaim their voice and create a life rooted in greater vitality, self-trust and purpose. Her work blends lived experience with holistic practices including breath, sound, somatic healing and her Four Pillars of Radiance Framework: Health, Healing, Happiness and Heart.
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Cherie Ashana:If you're a woman in midlife who's done doing this alone and
Cherie Ashana:ready for real conversations, real wisdom, and real radiance,
Cherie Ashana:you're exactly where you need to be. I'm your host Sharia Shana.
Cherie Ashana:Your path to radiance starts here. And welcome, listeners.
Cherie Ashana:Welcome to today's show. I'm joined by Lee Smith, spelt L Y,
Cherie Ashana:a self leadership strategist, award winning keynote speaker,
Cherie Ashana:and creator of the Candy Method. Lee helps high achieving women
Cherie Ashana:move beyond self-doubt, perfectionism, and people
Cherie Ashana:pleasing to reclaim their confidence, trust, their inner
Cherie Ashana:voice, and lead themselves differently. Lee, welcome to
Cherie Ashana:Sacred Shee Reset. I am delighted to have you here.
Cherie Ashana:Welcome to the show. Thank you so much, Sheree. Very excited to
Cherie Ashana:be here with you and talk about my passion, all things
Cherie Ashana:self-talk. Yeah, it's so wonderful. And this
Cherie Ashana:conversation, listeners. Well, it started in Costa Rica earlier
Cherie Ashana:this year when we were both on a wonderful retreat, women's
Cherie Ashana:retreat. And Lee and I just had this amazing sisterhood
Cherie Ashana:connection from the get-go. I'd say it's um, yeah, and it's now
Cherie Ashana:wonderful to share her expertise here with you all. So, Lee, what
Cherie Ashana:was it in your own journey that led you to become so passionate
Cherie Ashana:about helping women change the conversations they have with
Cherie Ashana:themselves?
Ly Smith:Yeah, thank you so much, Sheree. It it actually
Ly Smith:began about 10 years ago, and I was on this an incredible
Ly Smith:holiday with my family. my My husband we were married 15 years
Ly Smith:at that at that time, and we were there with our 14 year old
Ly Smith:daughter and our our grown stepson or my stepson, his son,
Ly Smith:who was out of the house but was there with his girlfriend. We
Ly Smith:were all experiencing the beautiful islands of Hawaii for
Ly Smith:the first time, and this was no ordinary family holiday because
Ly Smith:typically that's about five to seven days, right? This was a 23
Ly Smith:day holiday across the four islands of Hawaii. So, Sheree,
Ly Smith:at that time, if you were looking at my Facebook feed and
Ly Smith:you're seeing these pictures, you would have thought, "My God,
Ly Smith:she has the life. She gets to be a stay-at-home mom. She has this
Ly Smith:loving, supportive husband. She has these two beautiful
Ly Smith:children, and she's in this incredible place on the planet,
Ly Smith:and look at her and that beautiful smile. She must have
Ly Smith:it all together. And what you would not have seen, Sherry, is
Ly Smith:that during one of those sunsets, beautiful as it was, I
Ly Smith:was standing on the shore, looking out, and observing, you
Ly Smith:know, the golden orb on that jewel sapphire horizon, the
Ly Smith:breeze caressing my face, and my family there with me, the people
Ly Smith:that I love most, thinking, 23 days, who does that? Thinking,
Ly Smith:I'm doing something that most people don't even do once in
Ly Smith:their lifetime. I'm thinking, and I'm thinking, and I'm
Ly Smith:thinking, and then I caught a thought, Sheree. Why am I not
Ly Smith:feeling anything? I wasn't feeling excitement or happiness
Ly Smith:or joy or peace. I wasn't feeling frustration or
Ly Smith:disappointment or anything like that. I wasn't feeling anything
Ly Smith:at all, and I thought, "Who am I right now?" I thought, "What is
Ly Smith:happening?" Because I am a person who feels I feel life to
Ly Smith:its fullest. That's who I normally am. So why is that not
Ly Smith:happening in this particular moment, and and I thought,
Ly Smith:where? Why am I not even feeling happiness right now? I know how
Ly Smith:to make my husband happy. I know how to put a smile on my
Ly Smith:daughter's face. I know how to appease my stepson. So why is it
Ly Smith:not happening?
Cherie Ashana:Yeah, and so we need this guy straight base,
Cherie Ashana:right?
Ly Smith:Yeah. So then I had this long. I won't go into all
Ly Smith:the details, but I had this long conversation with myself, and
Ly Smith:and it came down to I had this almost out of body experience
Ly Smith:where I saw myself, and if you imagine dust particles in your
Ly Smith:hair, that I was thinking, I am just. So it's like these dust
Ly Smith:particles, but it was just. I am just a stay-at-home mom. I am
Ly Smith:just a. I am just a just right, and I was like. Then, if you
Ly Smith:take all that just away, then who am I? And this is what I
Ly Smith:find with the women that I work with today, Cherie. That you
Ly Smith:know they may not be, you know, they're they're covered in their
Ly Smith:own just, just their title, just their labels, and and and I got
Ly Smith:this from another a gal in a similar lane. She's like, "Oh, I
Ly Smith:call it a just prison." I'm like, "Well, then I want to be a
Ly Smith:just jailbreaker because we do we we imprison ourselves with
Ly Smith:those thoughts." And that happened 10 years ago, and I set
Ly Smith:myself up in a quest to go deep within, figure out, remember who
Ly Smith:am I, and the beautiful thing was I, you know, I did some
Ly Smith:actions with that, did some deep work with myself, and what came
Ly Smith:out of that was my eight-year-old inner child.
Cherie Ashana:No, that is beautiful. That is so beautiful.
Cherie Ashana:Yeah, find it really interesting because if I look at you now,
Cherie Ashana:and let's go back 10 years. You were, you were like right in
Cherie Ashana:that midlife transition, right? Like it's amazing how these
Cherie Ashana:these sort of disruptive moments come in, and they come in, and
Cherie Ashana:they kind of rattle us at the core quite a bit, don't they?
Cherie Ashana:They do. And so I'm, I'm, I'm I'm curious, like in that
Cherie Ashana:moment, in this just I'm just this, I'm just that, you know,
Cherie Ashana:I'm just these things. What what was the real big shift for you?
Cherie Ashana:Like, you know, I know you were sort of saying you you want to
Cherie Ashana:be a jail a just jailbreaker, which I think is just amazing.
Cherie Ashana:But what what helped you to take that next step. Like, what was
Cherie Ashana:it that was so profound? Because a lot of women, right, Lee, they
Cherie Ashana:sit in that and they actually are like, "Oh, it's not for me."
Cherie Ashana:And I know we're going to go here in this conversation. Oh,
Cherie Ashana:you know, I'm not good enough and I'm not worthy enough. But
Cherie Ashana:what what was it for you? Like, because you're you're you're
Cherie Ashana:doing this in your business now. You're doing this in your life.
Cherie Ashana:This is what you do. This is what you're passionate about. So
Cherie Ashana:it must have been really profound for you. You remember,
Cherie Ashana:like, is was there that like one moment or that one, you know,
Cherie Ashana:that something?
Ly Smith:Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Because when I got home from
Ly Smith:from that holiday, I, with more reflection, I realized, wait a
Ly Smith:minute, I've been living in a state of depression. Wow! Yeah,
Ly Smith:and then when I dug deeper, I thought, well, how long have I
Ly Smith:have I been living in this state? And I was like, oh, it's
Ly Smith:nearly three years. But I had masked it even for myself
Ly Smith:because we live in this day and age of social media where we're
Ly Smith:always flashing our highlight reel, the best of ourselves. I
Ly Smith:mean, getting to comparisonitis and and all of those things that
Ly Smith:I was no longer being present in my life. And at at that time in
Ly Smith:my life, I was a stay-at-home mom, which was a which was a
Ly Smith:chapter I had wanted in my heart since I was 14 years old, and
Ly Smith:now I was actually living it, and sure, the initial years I'm
Ly Smith:all in it, I'm all in it. But 14 years into that journey, I lost
Ly Smith:present, and so when I had this realization of like I need to
Ly Smith:remember who I am, and I took myself through through a
Ly Smith:process, and it's this process now that I use the candy method,
Ly Smith:as you mentioned in my introduction. And what came out
Ly Smith:out of that is my eight-year-old inner child who reminded me that
Ly Smith:I love, love, love public speaking, and that has become my
Ly Smith:calling. And I call that awakening for my clients. It's
Ly Smith:their calling to purpose. I don't believe that everybody is
Ly Smith:called to public speaking, but you, we each have our own
Ly Smith:purpose, and so that sense of coming alive again. What, what
Ly Smith:is it that makes you happy? Because Sheree, if you and I
Ly Smith:went out on the sidewalk together right now and we
Ly Smith:stopped people on the sidewalk, hey, I'm just taking a
Ly Smith:questionnaire. What makes you happy? You know, 85% we would
Ly Smith:hear everything that doesn't make them happy. Yeah, exactly.
Ly Smith:Took a step back and said, "Okay, well, thank you for
Ly Smith:sharing that." But what the real question is, what does make you
Ly Smith:happy? We would get a lot of, "I don't know." Yeah, I
Cherie Ashana:agree with you. I agree. People don't know. I I
Cherie Ashana:don't. I was sharing this conversation just recently last
Cherie Ashana:week with the the mastermind container. I mean, and I I don't
Cherie Ashana:know who I was talking to, but we were having a conversation
Cherie Ashana:about joy and contentment and happiness, and that I I believe
Cherie Ashana:there's this real um this in society people really don't know
Cherie Ashana:how to experience pure joy, contentment, and happiness. They
Cherie Ashana:don't know what it is. They don't know what it is for
Cherie Ashana:themselves. And a question like that, they're like, "I don't
Cherie Ashana:know. I've never explored those parts of myself." I find that
Cherie Ashana:really, really sad. I find like I feel really sad because, like
Cherie Ashana:you, I'm in a really great space in. My life, and this is why I'm
Cherie Ashana:doing this because let's get the message out. We got to do the
Cherie Ashana:ripple effect, right? We got to get it out there. But yeah, it's
Cherie Ashana:it's a big thing for people. They really haven't been asked
Cherie Ashana:these sort of questions, and they don't know how to go there.
Ly Smith:Yeah, and for me, it became a moment of one of my
Ly Smith:favorite quotes, and it's by Howard Thurman, and it says,
Ly Smith:"Don't ask what the world needs. Ask what makes you come alive.
Ly Smith:Now go do that, because what the world needs is more people to
Ly Smith:come alive, and that just that just ties in so beautifully to
Ly Smith:what I do because it's like yes, let me break you out of that
Ly Smith:just prison and let you come alive again, and it's so
Ly Smith:powerful. So when my eight-year-old inner child
Ly Smith:showed up, I thought, oh my goodness, that's right. I've
Ly Smith:been wanting to be this professional speaker for so
Ly Smith:long, but I would go after it. Something would happen, and I'd
Ly Smith:get distracted, and I'd go do that, and then I would remind
Ly Smith:myself, "Oh yeah, that's what I want to do." Get distracted
Ly Smith:again, and now I was in this place of, "Oh, my daughter will
Ly Smith:soon be heading off to college and leaving the proverbial nest,
Ly Smith:leaving just my husband and me." I'm like, oh, I never thought
Ly Smith:about that next chapter of myself. So yes, let's let's go
Ly Smith:chasing that. Let's go do that thing that makes me come alive,
Ly Smith:and see if I can help others to figure that out for themselves
Ly Smith:and come alive. And that brings us to here we are today, Sherry,
Ly Smith:where I get to share it with you.
Cherie Ashana:I know, and I just one thing I love about you,
Cherie Ashana:Lee, is you're so she you're just such a bubble of light.
Cherie Ashana:Like you're so passionate and so excited about this. I mean, if
Cherie Ashana:there's one woman who's walking her talk, it's Lee, and she's
Cherie Ashana:out there and she's doing it. And I know that you, you know,
Cherie Ashana:some of the listeners and the viewers, if you're watching this
Cherie Ashana:on YouTube, might be going, "Oh, you know she's got it all
Cherie Ashana:together. It's okay for her to say that she's done it, but I
Cherie Ashana:know that Lee has a lot of other stuff going on behind the
Cherie Ashana:scenes, some big stuff moving, and so it's you know we we it
Cherie Ashana:doesn't have to be this or that. It can be both, and we can be
Cherie Ashana:taking care of things at home, and then also going out there
Cherie Ashana:and shining a light in the world, and I think for me, when
Cherie Ashana:there's things going on at home, that's a driving factor for me
Cherie Ashana:too, to want to really, really brighten up, really shine
Cherie Ashana:brighter. So I I know it's there's some big stuff happening
Cherie Ashana:for you, Lee. How are you? How are you coping with that in your
Cherie Ashana:life? How are you handling all of that?
Ly Smith:Yeah, definitely. And what's what's happening for me
Ly Smith:is my husband now of 25 years marriage plus, he is going
Ly Smith:through some health issues, and we're we're looking at an organ
Ly Smith:transplant to keep him alive, and it's been a process. And it
Ly Smith:started two years ago for me and in my journey, and that became a
Ly Smith:major disruption. So here here's the love of my life that I that
Ly Smith:I want to keep around for as long as possible, and then
Ly Smith:here's a business that I want to build. Not only because it's a
Ly Smith:calling in my heart, it's a desire to make that impact out
Ly Smith:in the world. That if I can change and transform my self
Ly Smith:talk and and change the results that I see in my reality, now
Ly Smith:I'm called to do that for others, and also beyond that,
Ly Smith:it's like I want to build this business in such a way that I am
Ly Smith:able to retire my husband prior to the normal age of retirement,
Ly Smith:because he has been supporting me for 25 years and beyond as a
Ly Smith:stay-at-home mom. He knew from the get go, that was a dream and
Ly Smith:desire in my heart, and he came on board with that. He's
Ly Smith:provided for the family, and now in this next chapter, he's been
Ly Smith:supporting me and building my dream and building my business.
Ly Smith:And I want to pay that forward to him, not just because of his
Ly Smith:his health conditions, and maybe it's in his best interest to
Ly Smith:bring him home, but also because he's been supporting me. Why
Ly Smith:don't I just flip that around? And then, as I'm out speaking
Ly Smith:and traveling, he can come and travel with me because we both
Ly Smith:enjoy that so much together. And so there's this heaviness of of
Ly Smith:concern and and stress, if you will, and and then there's also
Ly Smith:the stress and the pressure that I put on myself to go be
Ly Smith:successful to make those things happen, and so yeah, they do co
Ly Smith:coexist. And you know, Sherry, you know, I found out something
Ly Smith:really interesting that made me go, "Oh, there's evidence. I
Ly Smith:have evidence of how I'm living my walk.". I have. There's a
Ly Smith:place here locally where a dear girlfriend of mine. She provides
Ly Smith:these various modalities to help people with their health and
Ly Smith:wellness. And one of the things that she does is she has these
Ly Smith:nodes that she puts on your wrist, and she takes the
Ly Smith:measurements of all the biometrics, so that you can see
Ly Smith:how much stress is in your body, and then she puts she takes you
Ly Smith:through the modality, and then she does the nodes again to to
Ly Smith:see the impact of that modality. Well, when her clinician did the
Ly Smith:initial reading on me, I watched her watch the screen, and I saw
Ly Smith:this look on her face that was a bit puzzling, and I thought,
Ly Smith:okay, interesting. And then she calls a coworker over. That
Ly Smith:coworker comes over. She has a puzzling look on her face too.
Ly Smith:And I and I just said, excuse me, is there something wrong?
Ly Smith:And she said, oh no, oh no, no, no, no, there's nothing wrong.
Ly Smith:It's just that we've never seen anybody come in with stress at
Ly Smith:such a minimal level. Wow! And we haven't even done the
Ly Smith:modality on you. You have the most, the least amount of stress
Ly Smith:we have ever seen before, and like there's barely room for
Ly Smith:improvement. And and I thought that's fantastic. That means I'm
Ly Smith:walking my talk. That yes, I have a lot of things to be
Ly Smith:stressful about. Yet I use my self talk in such a way to
Ly Smith:regulate my nervous system so that it doesn't impact and and
Ly Smith:take me down.
Cherie Ashana:That's beautiful, Lee. Thank you for sharing that.
Cherie Ashana:That's like and having that balance, it's so important. I
Cherie Ashana:want to, and I want to dive a bit deeper into this soft talk
Cherie Ashana:because I think we're getting down into the nitty-gritties
Cherie Ashana:here. So many women reach midlife having spent decades
Cherie Ashana:being everything to everyone, and you, you, you know that. I
Cherie Ashana:know that. We've both got those hats and those medals. So how
Cherie Ashana:how does that shape the way they speak to themselves?
Ly Smith:Yeah, we have to start with the starting point. Yeah,
Ly Smith:it's it's like programming a GPS. You have to have your
Ly Smith:current location, and you have to have that destination. Where
Ly Smith:do you go, right? And initially, why do we put it in the GPS
Ly Smith:because we don't know the how, and then once we put in that
Ly Smith:destination, we're like, okay, well, I'm trusting the process
Ly Smith:because we don't see all the turn by turns, do we? But we
Ly Smith:trust what's going to get us where we want to go, and so I
Ly Smith:have I have this beautiful framework that I use, and I'll
Ly Smith:and I'll share it with you. And I know we have audio listeners
Ly Smith:too, so I'll explain it. I have a set of Scrabble letters here,
Cherie Ashana:and
Ly Smith:they spell out the word reactor. And so, as you're
Ly Smith:listening, I want you to imagine, or if you're someplace
Ly Smith:where you can take notes, write down the word reactor on your
Ly Smith:paper. And the reactor is the woman who overthinks everything,
Ly Smith:but she calls it planning. She is a perfectionist, and she's
Ly Smith:like, "Oh, but that's my standards," or she's a people
Ly Smith:pleaser. She's like, "Well, that's just being professional,
Ly Smith:right?"
Cherie Ashana:I know this one. I know these ones very, very
Cherie Ashana:well,
Ly Smith:and so really we're reacting to our circumstances,
Ly Smith:and it could be internal, you know, with our thoughts and our
Ly Smith:feelings. It could be external, the people around us, fur
Ly Smith:babies, you know, emails, text messages, whatever demands our
Ly Smith:attention. And so the reactor, we're busy, we're stressed,
Ly Smith:we're overwhelmed, and really, we're like the letter C in
Ly Smith:reactor, where we may feel like we are just stuck in the middle
Ly Smith:of all the things. Now, for those of you who are writing
Ly Smith:writing down, cross out the letter C, and what I'm going to
Ly Smith:do is take out the letter C from the word here reactor because
Ly Smith:the point is is to take you out of that environment, whether
Ly Smith:it's with a deep breath, whether it's going out for a walk or
Ly Smith:whatever it is that lets you you know just have a moment for you
Ly Smith:so that you can see yourself pun intended see yourself for the
Ly Smith:amazingness and brilliance that you are, that you are such a
Ly Smith:magic miracle, and you have what I call 3g's: that you have
Ly Smith:genius, you have gifts, and you have greatness that you get to
Ly Smith:share in your relationships in the world, and to see that
Ly Smith:first. And this is what my clients do. I have that gift of
Ly Smith:seeing that inside of you, and I show you what needs to be seen.
Ly Smith:And when you put yourself first, that's where the magic and the
Ly Smith:transformation happens. Now, if you're listening, you write the
Ly Smith:letter C in front of the rest of the letters, and you see. And
Ly Smith:what do you
Cherie Ashana:get? Gator,
Ly Smith:because when you see yourself. First, you know what
Ly Smith:is important, what truly matters, what is the real
Ly Smith:priority, what are the boundaries. That's what women
Ly Smith:need to be better at. What are the boundaries where we say no
Ly Smith:so that we can say yes to ourselves? And it begins with
Ly Smith:creating your morning. The moment your eyes pop open, what
Ly Smith:are you creating? What's the self-talk happening there? Is it
Ly Smith:dread? Oh gosh, it's another day. Or is it? Thank God, I have
Ly Smith:another day, and you're showing up and serving the way you want
Ly Smith:to. So you're creating the way you wake up in the morning.
Ly Smith:You're creating the tone for your day. You're creating the
Ly Smith:work, the relationships, the business that you want now.
Ly Smith:Being a creator does not mean you control everything. It
Ly Smith:doesn't happen that. Not at all. You know what really matters,
Ly Smith:and so you you're following those step by step directions.
Ly Smith:Those next steps that you can see that are taking you where
Ly Smith:you want to go. That are taking you in the direction of helping
Ly Smith:you become who you are meant to be, and so I, I take myself and
Ly Smith:I take these women. How do you see yourself? Grab a mirror,
Ly Smith:grab a
Unknown:mirror,
Ly Smith:and see yourself eye to eye, and go. Am I being a
Ly Smith:reactor or a creator in my life? How do I see myself? And those
Ly Smith:are the beginning steps, Sheree, of being mindful of the
Ly Smith:self-talk because too many of us we're just running through life
Ly Smith:with those 60 to 80,000 thoughts running on autoplay, and if
Ly Smith:we're not paying attention, that's what's running our life.
Ly Smith:Why don't we take a moment to be the creator of our lives, where
Ly Smith:we choose the response and how we want to show up, and again,
Ly Smith:it doesn't mean we control everything, but we can handle it
Ly Smith:better. We can be proactive, or we can respond with that best
Ly Smith:version of ourselves in any given moment.
Cherie Ashana:That is beautiful. That is so, and
Cherie Ashana:that's so. It sounds so simple, right? And it's such a like,
Cherie Ashana:look at that reactor. Take the C, see yourself first, put it in
Cherie Ashana:front. I think that's really powerful, and I hope that's
Cherie Ashana:really resonated with many of you out there because it's just
Cherie Ashana:really flipping that narrative. I talk a lot about asking better
Cherie Ashana:questions and really flipping that narrative, and and how
Cherie Ashana:important it is to you know see how we're we're programmed and
Cherie Ashana:how we're actually speaking to ourselves. It's it's a huge
Cherie Ashana:thing, and what was coming to me as you were you were talking
Cherie Ashana:then, Lee, was this you know obviously going from my own
Cherie Ashana:experience and also seeing other women where we're we're big
Cherie Ashana:visionaries, so we're seeing the big picture. These
Cherie Ashana:perfectionists and people pleasers, and you know, high
Cherie Ashana:achievers and go getters, and just needing to be busy all the
Cherie Ashana:time. There's some really something really sacred in in
Cherie Ashana:following something like this, following a methodology that
Cherie Ashana:helps you to actually really unpack this this self talk
Cherie Ashana:because often we don't know what we need we don't know what we
Cherie Ashana:know until you know someone highlights something like this
Cherie Ashana:where it might be just simple little pow I remember when you
Cherie Ashana:first showed me this Lee I was like that's really cool it's
Cherie Ashana:really quirky really cool really simple and you know, I like you,
Cherie Ashana:Lee. It really is that morning practice of pause, the sacred
Cherie Ashana:pause. I I talk about the sacred pause a lot.
Ly Smith:Yeah,
Cherie Ashana:taking that time to see what's what's there for
Cherie Ashana:you today, and taking taking the time to do a little mini audit
Cherie Ashana:and taking stock, and so what? What I'm seeing here is like
Cherie Ashana:myself, big visionary, recovering perfectionist. So all
Cherie Ashana:the things for a woman who's kind of, so I know a lot of
Cherie Ashana:women that are listening, kind of coming to this midlife, you
Cherie Ashana:know, junction, and they they don't kind of know what they
Cherie Ashana:need or they don't know how to start taking that audit, and so
Cherie Ashana:they're going. This sounds simple for me, but you know what
Cherie Ashana:are some first steps I can start taking? I know you said grab a
Cherie Ashana:mirror, but what are some little practical steps you offer up for
Cherie Ashana:for the ladies, Lee? What do you yeah say? How do you start?
Cherie Ashana:Yeah, grounded in you know maybe sort of practical.
Ly Smith:Yeah, exactly, exactly. Well, certainly, one
Ly Smith:one of the beginning steps I do with with my clients is what I
Ly Smith:call the mirror test, and and I say, can you take that moment,
Ly Smith:whether it's in a small mirror or your bathroom mirror, can you
Ly Smith:see yourself human to human, or do you get caught up in the
Ly Smith:vanity? Oh, the gray hairs! Oh, the fine lines! Oh, the age
Ly Smith:flies! And you're looking at all of your imperfections. That is
Ly Smith:not seeing yourself human to human. That's seeing yourself in
Ly Smith:self criticism. I want to know: Can you make eye contact with
Ly Smith:yourself? As if you were looking at your best friend, person who
Ly Smith:is the most important and most lovable in your life, and taking
Ly Smith:a look at what you know. If we had to rate yourself, you know,
Ly Smith:one be like, I can't even make eye contact, and I have had
Ly Smith:those women, or you know, up to 10, rating myself to a 10. Yes,
Ly Smith:I can. I can look at myself, and I I can call myself by name, and
Ly Smith:I can say I love you, and you know. And where are you?
Ly Smith:Anywhere in between? That's the starting point. How you know
Ly Smith:being honest with yourself, and and and really taking that
Ly Smith:moment, and and acknowledging that, and then if it's not where
Ly Smith:you want it to be. If you're not feeling that way about yourself,
Ly Smith:then how do we get there? How do we get there? Can be that 10. So
Ly Smith:that's that's one thing. The next is is looking at the
Ly Smith:reactor to creator framework. How do you see yourself? Do you
Ly Smith:see yourself reacting all all over the place? You know, in you
Ly Smith:know what for those of us later in age, you know, with
Ly Smith:perimenopause and menopause, we can have our hormones at play.
Ly Smith:You know, we've got so many factors and moving parts in our
Ly Smith:life that everything feels like we're putting out fire after
Ly Smith:fire after fire. How much of that reactor mode is happening
Ly Smith:in your life? And then where do you want to make the change? I
Ly Smith:want to show up as the better version, if not the best version
Ly Smith:of myself. How do I how do I get to to more of that? You know
Ly Smith:where you can see yourself reactor or creator, and then
Ly Smith:what is the self talk? Is is it you know the most common self
Ly Smith:talk out there is I'm not good enough. Yeah, I feel guilty of
Ly Smith:that too because I grew up with a mom who constantly reminded me
Ly Smith:I was not good enough. And yeah, so how do we then get into a
Ly Smith:place where we can reframe, rewrite, rewire? Because isn't
Ly Smith:that the beautiful news that we have, Sheree? That if we're if
Ly Smith:we got the negative inner critic going on. We don't have to. Our
Ly Smith:brain scientifically has neuroplasticity, where we can
Ly Smith:rewire those synopses so that if we want to change our self talk,
Ly Smith:we can. You have to want it. You have to want it. You have to
Ly Smith:commit to it because it takes diligence. You can't just snap
Ly Smith:your fingers and say, "Ah, I feel good about myself." 100%
Ly Smith:takes time.
Cherie Ashana:It takes time. I think, and also just like the
Cherie Ashana:step before that, Lee. Like having that awareness. Like if
Cherie Ashana:things are really not going great in your life, and you're
Cherie Ashana:like, "Why is everything going wrong? Or you know, you know the
Cherie Ashana:big one. Why does this always happen to me? You know, there's
Cherie Ashana:there's an opportunity for reframe right there, and it's an
Cherie Ashana:opportunity to create awareness of what's happening in your life
Cherie Ashana:and awareness around the self talk because often where we are,
Cherie Ashana:we're in that negative bias that we have to you know, as humans,
Cherie Ashana:to want to go there, but as soon as we catch ourselves, so we're
Cherie Ashana:going to be able to catch ourselves, and then, then once
Cherie Ashana:we can go, oh my god, I can hear myself saying this, and oh, you
Cherie Ashana:know, I'm not worthy, and all, oh my god, and it can be
Cherie Ashana:overwhelming at first, right? When you first discover, because
Cherie Ashana:at first it's like, oh my God, is this is how I spend all these
Cherie Ashana:years talking to myself like this? Exactly, exactly. And what
Cherie Ashana:I found in my work, Sherry, is that there are 19 common phrases
Cherie Ashana:that we typically say ourselves, and I have put them together
Cherie Ashana:into a one sheet where on the left hand side I say don't say
Cherie Ashana:that, and it's those 19 phrases that we typically say to
Cherie Ashana:ourselves. And on the right hand side I have say this, and I give
Cherie Ashana:you those frames. So if you're thinking, well, what am I
Cherie Ashana:supposed to be saying instead? I I don't know exactly. I give you
Cherie Ashana:the answers
Ly Smith:that either you can use yourself, or maybe it'll
Ly Smith:spark you for your own phrase to to reframe, because you know
Ly Smith:when situations aren't going or expectations aren't you know
Ly Smith:what what we desire, we women we're so good at brushing things
Ly Smith:under the carpet, right? Exactly. Get in the closet. You
Ly Smith:can't do that with your self-talk. We can't just go. Oh,
Ly Smith:you know, yeah. So I said I'm not good enough. So what? I'm
Ly Smith:gonna press. I'm gonna push harder anyway. It doesn't work
Ly Smith:that way.
Cherie Ashana:It doesn't. It doesn't.
Ly Smith:What we say to ourselves, our reticular
Ly Smith:activation system part of our brain, will go looking for
Ly Smith:evidence of that. So if we're we're not, we can't push under
Ly Smith:the carpet. I'm not good enough. We have to reframe it and
Ly Smith:replace it with the "I am good enough" or just two words: "I'm
Ly Smith:enough." We have
Cherie Ashana:beautiful
Ly Smith:claimer in there. I'm enough, and then your brain will
Ly Smith:go looking for evidence. That and that's where we get the
Ly Smith:change of results.
Cherie Ashana:Yeah, I think a lot of a lot of women get really
Cherie Ashana:caught up in that, so they're they're saying, "What was? Give
Cherie Ashana:me an example there of what not to say." What you just said
Cherie Ashana:before, yeah. The most popular one,
Ly Smith:yeah, I'm I'm not good enough, or I'm overwhelmed.
Ly Smith:That's another one. Yeah, there we go. That's a great one. I'm
Ly Smith:overwhelmed. Another one we say. Yeah,
Cherie Ashana:let's go with that one. So I'm overwhelmed,
Cherie Ashana:and so I'm. This is a perfect example because I can use
Cherie Ashana:myself, and that in the past I've I've been extremely
Cherie Ashana:overwhelmed with with my work and things going on in life, and
Cherie Ashana:so you know you'd be saying you're saying this. You've got
Cherie Ashana:this self talk of I'm overwhelmed, and sometimes you
Cherie Ashana:don't realize you're saying it, but because you're feeling it,
Cherie Ashana:I'm overwhelmed. I'm overwhelmed. So you're
Cherie Ashana:programming that constantly, and until you make that switch,
Cherie Ashana:you're going to start. You're going to, like you said, you're
Cherie Ashana:going to be looking for evidence of being overwhelmed, so you're
Cherie Ashana:going to be overwhelmed all the time, right? And so these
Cherie Ashana:beautiful, these beautiful don't say and do say sort of things.
Cherie Ashana:These flipping the narrative, what what Lee's offering here,
Cherie Ashana:these little guides are great if you're just starting out. Like
Cherie Ashana:if you're going, I have nowhere. I don't know where to start. So,
Cherie Ashana:this is a really a really great thing if you can get your hands
Cherie Ashana:on some tools like this. And I know Lee's got a little gift for
Cherie Ashana:us at the end of this, but yeah, just things to help you until
Cherie Ashana:you you build that muscle yourself. You know, it's like
Cherie Ashana:going to the gym, right? You've got to exercise it. You've got
Cherie Ashana:to practice. It's like anything you do. Practice, practice,
Cherie Ashana:practice. It's not going to happen like overnight. It's not
Cherie Ashana:going to be a quick fix. I'm going to take this pill and
Cherie Ashana:everything's going to be better. So
Ly Smith:right, right. And and for me, just just to touch back
Ly Smith:on my own personal story, Sherry. You know when I you know
Ly Smith:I became aware of my depression that day on the beach, right?
Ly Smith:Yeah. When I get home, I created that practice for myself, which
Ly Smith:now has become the Candy Method. And it was 30 days. I committed
Ly Smith:myself, and it was 30 days, 60 days, 90 days. Repetitive
Ly Smith:motions and reframing, keeping that self awareness and
Ly Smith:reframing, and into the 90 days, that's where my eight year old
Ly Smith:inner child reappeared in my in my life and reminded me who I
Ly Smith:really am. And in the next eight months, Sheree fully
Ly Smith:accelerated. I got into the best health of my life. I yeah right
Ly Smith:my marriage that was in a real struggle at that time. I became
Ly Smith:an award-winning speaker, and I published my first book that
Ly Smith:became an international bestseller. And that all
Ly Smith:happened in eight months. It was everything was accelerating so
Ly Smith:fast, and I thought, what is happening? But my the because of
Ly Smith:resetting my talk, my self-talk, then the things that I wanted.
Ly Smith:They were that evidence, right? I am a funny speaker. It showed
Ly Smith:up absolutely. You are. You so loving supportive marriage that
Ly Smith:showed up. You know, I am. I'm a published author. That showed
Ly Smith:up. It it all started showing up because of that diligent
Ly Smith:reframing, but no, it was it was no overnight success by any
Ly Smith:means.
Cherie Ashana:No, no, and I love I love what you're saying
Cherie Ashana:about this, like your 30 days, 60 days, 90 days, just taking it
Cherie Ashana:in bite-sized chunks. And there's a couple of threads
Cherie Ashana:coming off here with me, so I want to keep my chain of thought
Cherie Ashana:going because I'm like going oh there's this one over here I
Cherie Ashana:want to talk about that so I um what I was hearing was those
Cherie Ashana:bite sized chunks and what came to me was the importance of
Cherie Ashana:accountability during that time
Ly Smith:yes
Cherie Ashana:and that when you change your mindset and you
Cherie Ashana:change this and you have the awareness around it. You can
Cherie Ashana:truly change your life. Like you can, I've done this as well. You
Cherie Ashana:can truly, truly transform your life and flip it. And so, the
Cherie Ashana:other piece that's landing for me is you've mentioned your
Cherie Ashana:little eight-year-old, your little girl, your eight-year-old
Cherie Ashana:little girl a number of times, and I'm curious to to find out
Cherie Ashana:that eight-year-old little girl, your inner child, is there some
Cherie Ashana:part of you from when you were eight years old that knew this
Cherie Ashana:already, that you wanted to be doing what you do and on the
Cherie Ashana:stage? Because I, I know for me, there's, you know, healing that
Cherie Ashana:part of myself from a little girl, and now doing kind of what
Cherie Ashana:I wanted to do when I was little. Is there a bridge there?
Cherie Ashana:Is there like a connection for you there, Lee?
Ly Smith:There is because when I when when I took a look back,
Ly Smith:I was like, oh yeah, I was I was an early reader, and I had I you
Ly Smith:know what you would call a gift. For reading out loud, and so I
Ly Smith:was called upon in many classrooms, and it was my
Ly Smith:catechist teacher who said, "Lee, you're you're so you're so
Ly Smith:great at reading. Would you read the scriptures at an upcoming
Ly Smith:church service?" And I just said yes because I I enjoyed it, and
Ly Smith:there was no there were no preconceived notions of, oh my
Ly Smith:gosh, I'm going to get in front of a whole bunch of people. Can
Ly Smith:I do this? Can I do this? Can it? Didn't even faze me. I just
Ly Smith:thought I'm going to get up there and I'm going to read the
Ly Smith:page that's in front of me. Right? Not 100%. Not bothered or
Ly Smith:phased by the three to 500 people out there in the
Ly Smith:congregation looking back at me didn't even phase me. I'm just
Ly Smith:reading the words, and then when I walked away from the
Ly Smith:sanctuary, I felt this visceral shiver or quiver ripple through
Ly Smith:my body, and it was such a delightful feeling that I
Ly Smith:thought, "What is that feeling, and how do I get more of that?
Ly Smith:It it's what I chase, and and I liken it to for anybody who has
Ly Smith:seen the f1 movie with Brad Pitt, and he has a moment where
Ly Smith:he talks about why does he keep racing, and he explains that,
Ly Smith:and then he gets to experience that in in the movie. And for
Ly Smith:me, I'm like, that's it. I keep getting on stage. I keep
Ly Smith:grabbing the mic. I keep finding these opportunities or creating
Ly Smith:the opportunities to share my story and message because it's
Ly Smith:that feeling, that little quiver that goes through my body. So
Ly Smith:yeah, I love that myself that started it, and she remembered
Ly Smith:it because she whispered in me. She said, "Remember how we love
Ly Smith:public speaking. Let's go chasing that. Let's go." So, and
Ly Smith:and that's that's what I love, you know, helping for. It's
Ly Smith:like, okay, you know, Sheree. It's like, what is it for you?
Ly Smith:Maybe it's not an inner child moment, but what is it that that
Ly Smith:makes you shiver with excitement? I could have taken
Ly Smith:that moment, you know. Now that I understand so much later in
Ly Smith:years, I could have taken that and and had it be a negative
Ly Smith:thing of stage fright. Oh my God, that was so scary! I never
Ly Smith:want to do that again. And we get that from so many people,
Ly Smith:right? They're like, I don't want to get up in front of an
Ly Smith:audience, and you know, and we get the statistics that people
Ly Smith:would rather face death than than a group of people. And you
Ly Smith:know, phenomenal, isn't it? Yes, but for me, it was it was a
Ly Smith:moment of excitement and thrill. And so that's what I what I what
Ly Smith:makes me feel alive, and that's what I go after. And so now, you
Ly Smith:know, I I ask because I have that for myself. That's where I
Ly Smith:ask the women that I work with. I'm like, what is it for you?
Ly Smith:What is it that said either that you know abundance of joy that
Ly Smith:just emanates from you that makes you just feel so alive?
Ly Smith:What is that, and how can we now rewrite, reframe, rewire the
Ly Smith:self talk so that it is in alignment with you, and that's
Ly Smith:that's what I liken to your message, Sherry, as the sacred
Ly Smith:reset. Right when we have that understanding
Ly Smith:of who we are and who we're meant to be out in the world,
Ly Smith:there's no feeling like it. It's so euphoric, and that's what I
Ly Smith:want. Imagine all of us living in euphoria. I know,
Cherie Ashana:and this is why this this is one of the reasons
Cherie Ashana:why I started this podcast in the first place because it's
Cherie Ashana:like I want to have these conversations because and when
Cherie Ashana:you've got an alignment between say two of us having a
Cherie Ashana:conversation like this even me on a solo episode looking down
Cherie Ashana:the camera it's a ripple effect and the intention's there the
Cherie Ashana:loving intention is there to really shift the planet and
Cherie Ashana:really change the way things are happening in the world right
Cherie Ashana:now. So we need more of you out there. So ladies, you gotta you
Cherie Ashana:gotta listen to this and start changing the narrative and start
Cherie Ashana:flipping flipping things because you are needed. I'm really
Cherie Ashana:curiously. I know we'll have to wrap up soon, but I just would
Cherie Ashana:love to you. You've mentioned your candy method a number of
Cherie Ashana:times as well, which isn't that isn't that divine, sweet sweet
Cherie Ashana:candy candy method. So how does that how does that help women
Cherie Ashana:change their inner dialog?
Ly Smith:Yes, and again, this is taken from from my personal
Ly Smith:journey. You know, you heard my depression story. You know, now
Ly Smith:into my direction with purpose, and when I took a look back,
Ly Smith:because when that child showed up, I'm like, "Okay, but what
Ly Smith:will I speak about?" And I thought, "Okay, let's just begin
Ly Smith:with my own story and see how that lands." And I thought,
Ly Smith:"Well, how did I move out of this depression?" And it's taken
Ly Smith:my my now 30 plus years of personal development studies, my
Ly Smith:life coaching skills, and my NLP neuro linguistic programming
Ly Smith:skills worked that on myself, and it was like like you said
Ly Smith:earlier, Sheree. It was asking the right questions, right? So
Ly Smith:first is the C. That's clarity. Who am I without the labels?
Ly Smith:When I clear the just, what is still there? Who am I really?
Ly Smith:What makes me happy? What makes me come alive? What is the dream
Ly Smith:for myself? And getting really clear on that, and that becomes
Ly Smith:like the GPS of like my my starting point, and where do I
Ly Smith:want to go? Who do I want to become? And then we move into
Ly Smith:the A, which is affirmation, because for me in my journey, I
Ly Smith:I chose a word to help me through it, and my word was
Ly Smith:laugh, because I couldn't remember when was the last time
Ly Smith:I laughed. So I felt was aligned, and there's a right way
Ly Smith:and a wrong way to use affirmations, and of course, I'm
Ly Smith:going to guide you in the right and the most effective ways to
Ly Smith:do that. And then when I realized, oh, I do, I want to go
Ly Smith:back into public speaking. How do I do that? I'm currently a
Ly Smith:stay-at-home mom. the the The further down the road path is
Ly Smith:that professional speaking. There's a gap in between, and so
Ly Smith:become necessary steps to make that transformation or to aspire
Ly Smith:towards that goal. So then the N is the necessity, and then the D
Ly Smith:is like okay. And I like to say I have the can and my candy now,
Ly Smith:but I can't. I can't. I can't. But if we don't do anything with
Ly Smith:it, because what comes up when we make a decision, Sheree, all
Ly Smith:the resistance. Oh yeah, really comes alive and says, "But I
Ly Smith:can't do this." All the things, and so the D is the discipline,
Ly Smith:and it's
Ly Smith:disciplining our thoughts. We must become so acutely aware of
Ly Smith:our thoughts, so that we can diligently reframe them. And
Ly Smith:then it's also the feelings, navigating our feelings and what
Ly Smith:comes up, because we want the feelings of alignment, and then
Ly Smith:the actual doing. Right? We must take action, and whether it's
Ly Smith:something small or we're taking that giant leap, and anywhere in
Ly Smith:between, we must take action. Action helps us get clarity.
Ly Smith:Action helps us get the confidence. Action tells our
Ly Smith:brain, "Oh, we did something. Wait,
Cherie Ashana:alive. Okay, okay. We survived it. I
Ly Smith:survived it. Oh, I did that. Okay. Well, what else can
Ly Smith:I do? So the D is the discipline, and the Y is is my
Ly Smith:favorite part because it's all about you and celebrating. And
Ly Smith:for me, it could be a little thing of like I'm giving myself
Ly Smith:a high five over my head, or I'm going in the mirror, and and
Ly Smith:this was a practice that that I was doing before Mel Robbins
Ly Smith:turned it into a book and a movement, you know, high fiving
Ly Smith:yourself. It's because that is the biggest prevention to burn
Ly Smith:out. We man, we can be such high achievers, high performers, such
Ly Smith:go getters, and we do when we do when we do. But if we don't take
Ly Smith:a moment again, even if it's just a moment of a deep breath
Ly Smith:to acknowledge, I accomplished that. We need that moment to let
Ly Smith:our brain know, oh wow, we did that. We're still alive. We're
Ly Smith:still here. What else can I do? If we don't take that moment,
Ly Smith:we're going to just push, push, push, push. We never had that
Ly Smith:self-regulation, and then we're just going to completely deplete
Ly Smith:the energy and burn ourselves out. So you is about celebrating
Ly Smith:you. Going, ah,
Cherie Ashana:yes,
Ly Smith:I did that. You know, or put, you know, call up a
Ly Smith:friend. It's like, guess what I just did?
Cherie Ashana:Exactly.
Ly Smith:Me, and it's uh, it's so necessary, so necessary. And
Ly Smith:it make it fun, make it fun. And if it's something as big as a
Ly Smith:spa day, ladies, go do it. Go have a spa day. You know, call
Ly Smith:up a girlfriend and have you know a a coffee and and you know
Ly Smith:just go enjoy that. Or if it's like, all right, I'm gonna cut,
Ly Smith:you know, do a two hour time block for myself, where it's
Ly Smith:just all about me, whatever that means. Do that, and sometimes do
Ly Smith:it. Schedule is so full, and all you can do is a deep breath,
Ly Smith:like, all right, that deep
Cherie Ashana:breath, ladies.
Ly Smith:All right, let's go. So that's the candy method. So
Ly Smith:altogether, Surrey. It's clarity, affirmation, necessity,
Cherie Ashana:discipline, discipline, you and you. And on
Cherie Ashana:that note, with you, it's you know we don't celebrate the
Cherie Ashana:small wins enough, ladies. We're always looking for the big hits,
Cherie Ashana:but it could be something just little by oh, I stopped today
Cherie Ashana:and paused and gave myself time to make a cup of tea and take
Cherie Ashana:that breath. We do need to celebrate ourselves, and we need
Cherie Ashana:to celebrate those small little wins because they're the
Cherie Ashana:bite-sized chunks. To the bigger vision, wouldn't you agree, Lee?
Cherie Ashana:So so important, and they compound. They compound.
Ly Smith:In such a beautiful way.
Cherie Ashana:Yeah, and before you know it, after a few months,
Cherie Ashana:you're like, oh my god, look at my life changing. It's super
Cherie Ashana:super important. And on that note, with your candy method,
Cherie Ashana:Lee, where where can the ladies find you? What have you got? I
Cherie Ashana:believe you've got a little gift for them today, which I will put
Cherie Ashana:in the show notes, and you can grab everything there. But can
Cherie Ashana:you tell us a little bit about where they can find you and what
Cherie Ashana:you've got today? Yes, absolutely, and thank you so
Cherie Ashana:much for this beautiful conversation, Sherry. I've just
Cherie Ashana:enjoyed every moment of it, and I hope our ladies are taking too
Cherie Ashana:a little nugget away that they can they can they can you know
Cherie Ashana:marinate and and and do something with. So yes, I have
Cherie Ashana:what I call the five minute self talk reset, and you know you
Cherie Ashana:heard earlier that I mentioned the 19 phrases we typically say
Cherie Ashana:to each other, and so you get that one page easily printed
Cherie Ashana:out. Have it at
Ly Smith:your desk side, so that when you catch the thought,
Ly Smith:you're like, "Oh, but what should I be saying?" And you can
Ly Smith:look at that. Tape it to your bathroom mirror, and because
Ly Smith:that's where most of our self talk happens, is in the mirror.
Ly Smith:Or put it as a wallpaper on your phone, because we carry our
Ly Smith:phones with us everywhere we go. So when you, what a great idea!
Ly Smith:And then you think, "Oh, but what can I be saying?" Until you
Ly Smith:make it your own habit, and it only takes five minutes. I give
Ly Smith:you the overview of what candy is all about, and then I give
Ly Smith:you that single page with the two columns. Take five minutes,
Ly Smith:create that reset. So when you catch the thought, reframe it,
Ly Smith:and then rewire it into your brain. Five minutes, you are
Ly Smith:worth so much more than five minutes. You are more than just
Ly Smith:whatever label you put on yourself. So take this moment
Ly Smith:for you. The five-minute self-talk reset. You can get
Ly Smith:that by going to rewriteyourselftalk.com, and
Ly Smith:that invites you into my ecosystem where we can have a
Ly Smith:conversation, and if you want to deep dive further into the candy
Ly Smith:method, I'm here for it. But yes, please take advantage of
Ly Smith:the free gift. Don't just download it; really, print it
Ly Smith:out and put it to use. And you can grab that at
Ly Smith:rewriteyourselftalk.com because when you change your self talk,
Ly Smith:you change your results.
Cherie Ashana:Yeah, you absolutely do, Lee. That and
Cherie Ashana:ladies, that is a phenomenal gift and a great starting point.
Cherie Ashana:I highly recommend that you download that resource and get
Cherie Ashana:into Lee's world. Like she's a phenomenal woman. I'm just, I
Cherie Ashana:just, she is a soul sister. I love her so much. And before we
Cherie Ashana:go, I do have a little question. So I've got these beautiful
Cherie Ashana:little cards that I call conversation cards that I
Cherie Ashana:created, and there's a six different categories they come
Cherie Ashana:under. But I've got I've got six here. There are 36 in total in
Cherie Ashana:these cards, but I've got six here that I've picked out for
Cherie Ashana:Lee, and I'm going to ask you, Lee, to choose a number between
Cherie Ashana:one and six. So I'm going to like ones this side here, 23456,
Cherie Ashana:and I'm going to take that card. I'm going to ask you the
Cherie Ashana:question on that card.
Ly Smith:Okay. Well, when I have a look at the card, it's
Ly Smith:the number five. It's the number five card that was pulling. This
Cherie Ashana:one.
Ly Smith:Yes.
Cherie Ashana:This one. Yes. So we've got number five. I'm doing
Cherie Ashana:this in real time. If you're listening to this, I'm pulling
Cherie Ashana:cards, and we're going to have a little look at the question. And
Cherie Ashana:so, are you ready for this? I'm ready. Where in your life are
Cherie Ashana:you being invited to trust yourself more?
Ly Smith:Wow! Thank you. Such a beautiful question.
Cherie Ashana:Yeah, I love that question.
Unknown:Oh,
Cherie Ashana:take your Time. Where in your life are you being
Cherie Ashana:invited to trust yourself more?
Ly Smith:It's trusting myself in those moments where I show
Ly Smith:up. I have such heart for wanting to give, to give value,
Ly Smith:to give, to give that moment of aha and empowerment, and I will
Ly Smith:catch myself at times. I'm getting better at it. Catch
Ly Smith:myself of Lee, you're trying too hard, and you don't have to. You
Ly Smith:don't have to. The process is already in motion, and it's not
Ly Smith:up to you to control all the all the moving parts. All you have
Ly Smith:to do is be present and show. Up, you are already. Are you are
Ly Smith:you are enough? You are valuable. You are worthy. You
Ly Smith:are resonating with the women who need you most. So lean in to
Ly Smith:just being, just be you, and just be where you are. That's
Ly Smith:like, oh, okay, okay. It's such, it's such a humbling epiphany,
Ly Smith:right? Like, like, oh, oh, I do get so passionate, and I do get
Ly Smith:just a little, and it's like I, you know, desiring this and
Ly Smith:desiring that, and and and I'm working, and and making sure
Ly Smith:that I keep myself from the word try. Right, I'm trying. It's
Ly Smith:like no, I'm not trying. It's like where am I just doing? And
Ly Smith:then also recognizing like, oh, okay, well maybe I I am doing,
Ly Smith:but where am I being? And so trusting myself.
Cherie Ashana:That's that's where I be called. So thank you
Cherie Ashana:for that beautiful question. It's a pleasure. You picked it.
Cherie Ashana:You picked it. It was. I I like adding this in because it. You
Cherie Ashana:know the listeners and the viewers. You know I I want these
Cherie Ashana:episodes to be really grounded in that we're all human and
Cherie Ashana:we're all doing our best, honey. We're all doing our best, and
Cherie Ashana:we're all on this journey, no matter where we are on the
Cherie Ashana:trajectory. So, thank you for sharing really vulnerably
Cherie Ashana:because it's like Lee is living her work every day, and it's
Cherie Ashana:normally what we're doing, we're we're our biggest thing that's
Cherie Ashana:taught us, or we're journeying through in our life. Our biggest
Cherie Ashana:lessons is what we then go on to help share and teach with other
Cherie Ashana:people. So, Lee, thank you so so much. It's been an absolute
Cherie Ashana:honor having you here today, and I'm sure there'll be another
Cherie Ashana:interview in the pipeline somewhere along the way. Love
Cherie Ashana:it! Thank you for joining me on the Sacred She Reset, awakening
Cherie Ashana:your radiant wisdom, and I look forward to us chatting again
Cherie Ashana:soon. Absolutely. So, what I'm taking away from today's
Cherie Ashana:conversation is that sometimes the biggest thing standing
Cherie Ashana:between us and our next chapter is in our circumstances; it's
Cherie Ashana:the story we have been telling ourselves about who we're
Cherie Ashana:allowed to be, and perhaps that's something worth sitting
Cherie Ashana:with this week. What have I been telling myself that I'm finally
Cherie Ashana:ready to question? I'll leave you with that, and thanks for
Cherie Ashana:joining me for this week's episode. Big love from Shurehi.
Cherie Ashana:Bye for now.

